Simulacrum levels
Noa: Well, simulacrum level 3 is worse! If they’re successful in defending the lie, they’re also confusing other people about what reasoning looks like. If people’s idea of argument is based on the kind of point-scoring that happens in a competitive debate or a courtroom, and they model their thinking and discourse after this, then they’re learning simulacrum level 3 thought patterns, trying to make a thing true by arguing for it, instead of using arguments to try to find out what’s true.
– www.greaterwrong.com/posts/KzAG4yWQJosmEjHe2/blatant-lies-are-the-best-kind
(This person's point touches the ancient discussion on Dialectics and The domain of rhetoric.)
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